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Cyberpunk 2077 - Performance e Problemas Técnicos

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Batunaz

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Passou-te aí o facto de 60% das vendas ate agora terem sido para pc. Nao invalida a tua linha de raciocínio mas enfraquece esse argumento. Nao esquecer o facto de que a CDPR desenvolve para PC e depois é que faz o port para consola. Nao esquecer tambem que ao contrario do que costuma acontecer o jogo foi lancado com mais upgrades gráficos do que os gameplays e demos anteriores. Ao contrario do que dizes, eles tiveram ambicao a mais, nao a menos. E o resultado esta a vista.

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Já agora vou deixar aqui a minha experiência com o jogo.

Tenho um Ryzen 7 2700x e uma RTX 2080, e com tudo em low (med ou high era igual), o jogo corria muito mal entre 30 a 60 FPS. Um túnel especifico na cidade mal entras no open-world após as missões iniciais metia-me a 15 FPS... é só ridículo.
O que me parece é que a CDPR focou-se nas coisas erradas e claramente foram demasiado ambiciosos. Se o jogo está assim agora, nem quero saber como estava quando foi inicialmente adiado.
Também dão a entender que várias funcionalidades, como a condução, a polícia, etc, são coisas que foram adicionadas no final de vida do desenvolvimento do jogo.

Eu decidi que não ia jogar um jogo nestas condições com o meu hardware. Até que um amigo me enviou este post do reddit:

Após fazer esta modificação, a CPU usage no jogo passou de 40% para 75% e jogo praticamente a 60-70 FPS estáveis (a condução continua uma merda e virar a camara em high-speed desce-me para 30-40 FPS...).

Isto é puramente amadorismo da CDPR. Como é uma empresa que se apresenta como um Triple A developer não optimiza o jogo para os CPUs AMD, quando todas as consolas utilizam AMD?

Sinceramente todo o hate que a CDPR recebeu nesta release é merecido e é bom que abra os olhos a muitos developers no futuro.

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Vão precisar "limpar" muitos polígonos, baixar as resoluções das texturas, reduzir o número de NPCs, para tornar este jogo jogável nas consolas base. 

O atual sistema de simplificação do detalhe está a estragar o jogo. Há NPCs a fazer lembrar os polígonos do Tomb Raider 2 na PS1. 

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@Ilusi0n sim não está optimizado de raiz para amd. Isso que meteste tb me resolveu os baixos framerates.

@cursedNão entendo a insistência nisso das consolas (neste caso pelo menos) significarem segurança financeira. Mas numa coisa concordamos... o jogo está uma merda no estado actual nas consolas e não podia ter saído assim.

@cyberurbis Como sempre o fez.

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Por outro lado, a empresa encaixou uma balúrdio de dinheiro com este jogo. 

Mesmo com todos estes últimos anos de desenvolvimento, toda a publicidade e actores pagos, acho que lucraram imenso. 

Mesmo que gastem mais 3 ou 4 meses a melhorar o jogo, vão continuar no lucro. 

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TLDR: Go to Memorypoolbudgets.csv in your Cyberpunk>Engine>Config folder Change the PoolGPU and Pool CPU values under the "PC" column (you can do this with notpad, just directly replace without adding spaces). Change the values to about 75-90% of the ram you have available for your CPU and GPU. Eg: If you have 16gb of ram and 8gb of Vram, change PoolCPU to 12gb (instead of the default 1536mb) and change Pool GPU to 6gb (Or 7). That's it, you're done. Click save and enjoy more fps potentially. The video goes into more detail on what values to put in, but the concept is simple; don't allocate more ram than you have. Be mindful if you want to run the game with discord open, or maybe a few google tabs open, your CPU pool will have to be lower than you expect.
 
 
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1 hour ago, EsCk said:

Houve uma emergency conf call com shareholders da CDPR. Quem quiser ouvir:

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I'll live update as I listen and ad some personal comments.

  • CEO says they want to gain the trust of gamers back because they know they've lost it. CEO puts on a "humble" facade that quickly disappears later in the call.
  • 17 minutes in, as one of the developers is finishing up answering a question about what they will do to fix the game on last gen consoles, he tells the investor to not expect any graphical or game system type changes, as their only intent is to make the game playable from start to finish without crashing on last gen.
  • Last gen console versions of the game weren't given to reviewers because the dev team was still working on those versions during the review period for the game. They were working on them "up until the last minute".
  • They also state earlier in the call there was limited QA testing done on the game, it was all done "in house" and no experienced third party contractors were used. CDPR employees played iterative builds of the game in their homes due to the pandemic and that's how they tested the game. They say there wasn't much attention put on the last generation console versions of the game. (you know, the consoles the game was originally made for before the delays)
  • 21 or so minutes in, the CEO says they plan to let the Cyberpunk team rest "until February". (good, the actual developers deserve a ton of rest after what their management team has done)
  • Multiplayer is tentatively scheduled to release in 2022, but could be pushed to 2023. Depends on how long it takes the development team to actually finish the game (referring to the planned DLC's & expansions) as well as fix what was and is currently being sold to customers.
  • Several investors seem to be very concerned about the game being refunded. One asked how the refund process works through Microsoft and Sony and if the investor will still keep his cut. (this person seems to have no regard for customer satisfaction and is only focused on keeping his cut of the money, even after a customer refunds the game.)
  • No plans to lower the price of the last gen console versions, despite the depleted experience. The PC version has very clearly been their main focus. All console versions seem to be an afterthought.
  • One investor asks if the development team needed more actual developers in order to finish the game on time. CDPR's answer was no, that the number of developers wouldn't have changed anything. The CEO took responsibility for their management team rushing the development of the game and not understanding the technical limitations the dev team was up against. (yo what happened to "Coming: When it's ready" ???)
  • It's very apparent throughout this call the CDPR management team keeps referring back to the "next gen upgrade at no additional cost" for console owners, but they fail to explain to these investors that doesn't change anything if you don't have a next gen console. They are using that as a response to questions about the last gen console version of the game. Pretty scummy way to frame their answers in my opinion, and it's happened multiple times now.
  • Stadia version will be updated once before their holiday break. After that there is no further update (bug fixing updates) planned for the Stadia version of the game, but this could change in Q1 of 2021.
  • An investor specifically asks about the NPC and AI behavior, citing the backlash it's received online by customers. CDPR's answer is that the AI and NPC behavior is part of the bugs, and the patches that come in January and February will address those issues/bugs. Nothing more in depth was said about the AI.
  • One last time before ending the call, CDPR yet again touts the "next gen upgrade at no additional cost" and hopes gamers will keep the game instead of refunding it so that they can experience the next gen upgrade as soon as it's ready. But again, as I stated earlier, they fail to explain to these investors that if you don't have a next gen console, this next gen upgrade is useless to you.

 

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One asked how the refund process works through Microsoft and Sony and if the investor will still keep his cut. (this person seems to have no regard for customer satisfaction and is only focused on keeping his cut of the money, even after a customer refunds the game.)

Esse simplesmente nao teve vergonha na cara e cagou para a etica em publico, mas como ele sao muitos atras a puxar os cordelinhos na sombra caladinhos e complicar as coisas so com eddies em mente.

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2 hours ago, skaazi said:

Esse simplesmente nao teve vergonha na cara e cagou para a etica em publico, mas como ele sao muitos atras a puxar os cordelinhos na sombra caladinhos e complicar as coisas so com eddies em mente.

É um investidor, a unica coisa que está interessado é no retorno financeiro e não no resto.

Mesma coisa que tu comprares acções de uma empresa. Estás a cagar-te para o motivo pelo qual elas valorizaram, queres é que valorizem para ganhares dinheiro.

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