Lancer Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Notch just revealed that Mojang won the interim injunction, allowing them to keep the name Scrolls for their upcoming CCG-alike game! While Zenimax can appeal this ruling, Notch was nonetheless optimistic about the outcome, as were numerous employees at Mojang. If you're fluent in Swedish, you can see the released document right here. The original debate started when developer Mojang decided to make the working title of their new CCG-like game "Scrolls", which prompted software publisher Bethesda Softworks to respond, citing potential confusion between Mojang's Scrolls and their own Elder Scrolls franchise. Some time into the proceedings, Notch offered to settle the dispute with a friendly game of Quake 3, a challenge which was not answered. The proposed solution was intended to ease any potential PR incidents, and provide an amicable solution to the dispute. The challenge went unanswered, although Notch has expressed an interest in playing against them for entertainment purposes, despite recent developments. and just like that, bethesda was given the finger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figos Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Atenção que quem tem a culpa nisto não é Bethesda mas sim a Zenimax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted October 18, 2011 Author Share Posted October 18, 2011 E a Bethesda pertence a quem? All the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cursed Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 não interessa. faz-me lembrar o tempo em que a apple processava tudo o que começava por i lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figos Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 E a Bethesda pertence a quem? All the same. São coisas completamente diferentes lol. E eu por acaso concordo com a Zenimax neste processo. Não se trata de querer esmagar os indies ou de lhes cortar as pernas, é uma questão de protegerem a sua propriedade individual e as suas marcas registadas. Além disso a forma como a Bethesda se portou neste processo só mostrou o porquê de serem uma das melhores software houses que aí andam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini0n Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 LOL mas brincamos, Figos? Que propriedade? Foda-se ainda bem que ninguém faz um jogo chamado " " e patenteia todos os espaços e mais nenhum jogo pode ter espaços no nome... :facepalm: Btw, OLÉ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figos Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 LOL mas brincamos, Figos? Que propriedade? Foda-se ainda bem que ninguém faz um jogo chamado " " e patenteia todos os espaços e mais nenhum jogo pode ter espaços no nome... Btw, OLÉ. Pela mesma razão que o Ilusion cá no FNF teve problemas por ter "Phone House" no site dele que nem sequer era uma loja verdadeira. Tirado do Destructoid: We've heard lots from Minecraft developer Notch over the lawsuit that Bethesda has filed against him, but not a lot from the company throwing its legal weight around. Bethesda has finally addressed the matter in public, claiming it's been "forced" to sue Mojang Games over the name Scrolls. "Mojang's public comments have not given a complete picture as it relates to their filings, our trademarks, or events that have taken place," said marketing VP Pete Hines. "Nobody here enjoys being forced into this. Hopefully it will all be resolved soon." Zenimax, the company in charge of Bethesda, certainly has to protect its trademarks. If Mojang releases Scrolls uncontested, it could open the door for more grievous permutations of the name, diluting the strength of the Elder Scrolls as a brand. This is basically what attorneys and Zenimax are saying at the moment, that they have a "duty" to stop Notch for the sake of protecting their product. Trademark law is a messy thing, and while it's very easy to take Notch's side and root for the little guy against an evil corporation, there's a lot more at work. Companies often have to go after these little guys just to stop bigger, more nefarious infringements taking place. It's a messed up thing, but Pete Hines is right -- this isn't something that can be solved by Notch's goodwill or developers weighing in. It's something for the lawyers to hash out, however ugly that is. Não vale a pena estarmos a discutir isto a fundo porque nenhum de nós percebe um boi de leis e afins, mas há milhares de exemplos destes em qualquer lado. Quando a "Maxim" foi lançada em Portugal, foram obrigados a mudar de nome porque já existia a revista "Máxima". E olha que antes de se chamarem "Maxmen" ainda foram "Super Maxim". É idiota mas é assim que o mundo e os tribunais funcionam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mini0n Posted October 18, 2011 Share Posted October 18, 2011 Não deixa de ser ridículo. Muito ridículo. Ainda se fosse um qualquer ripoff chinês, ainda entendia... agora, um jogo de cartas... Ridículo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 (edited) LOL mas brincamos, Figos? Que propriedade? Foda-se ainda bem que ninguém faz um jogo chamado " " e patenteia todos os espaços e mais nenhum jogo pode ter espaços no nome... Btw, OLÉ. Pela mesma razão que o Ilusion cá no FNF teve problemas por ter "Phone House" no site dele que nem sequer era uma loja verdadeira. Tirado do Destructoid: We've heard lots from Minecraft developer Notch over the lawsuit that Bethesda has filed against him, but not a lot from the company throwing its legal weight around. Bethesda has finally addressed the matter in public, claiming it's been "forced" to sue Mojang Games over the name Scrolls. "Mojang's public comments have not given a complete picture as it relates to their filings, our trademarks, or events that have taken place," said marketing VP Pete Hines. "Nobody here enjoys being forced into this. Hopefully it will all be resolved soon." Zenimax, the company in charge of Bethesda, certainly has to protect its trademarks. If Mojang releases Scrolls uncontested, it could open the door for more grievous permutations of the name, diluting the strength of the Elder Scrolls as a brand. This is basically what attorneys and Zenimax are saying at the moment, that they have a "duty" to stop Notch for the sake of protecting their product. Trademark law is a messy thing, and while it's very easy to take Notch's side and root for the little guy against an evil corporation, there's a lot more at work. Companies often have to go after these little guys just to stop bigger, more nefarious infringements taking place. It's a messed up thing, but Pete Hines is right -- this isn't something that can be solved by Notch's goodwill or developers weighing in. It's something for the lawyers to hash out, however ugly that is. Não vale a pena estarmos a discutir isto a fundo porque nenhum de nós percebe um boi de leis e afins, mas há milhares de exemplos destes em qualquer lado. Quando a "Maxim" foi lançada em Portugal, foram obrigados a mudar de nome porque já existia a revista "Máxima". E olha que antes de se chamarem "Maxmen" ainda foram "Super Maxim". É idiota mas é assim que o mundo e os tribunais funcionam. isso não é bem assim... só fizeste post a metade da história... I feel the need to clarify a couple of things: We realized we should apply for the trademark “Minecraft” to protect our brand. When doing so, we also sent in an application for “Scrolls”. When Bethesda contacted us, we offered both to change the name to “Scrolls: <some subtitle>” and to give up the trademark. They refused on both counts. Whatever reason they have for suing us, it’s not a fear of us having a trademark on the word “Scrolls”, as we’ve offered to give that up. @World of Notch A Zenimax está tao longe da Bethesda como a Activision da Blizzard. A partir do momento em que são comprados vejo-os como um todo e é assim que funcionam. Por muito que digam que não vao interferir, os acionistas tem a ultima palavra (e a ultima palavra é lucro rápido). Os developers da Bethesda não tem culpa desta confusão obviamente, já os advogados e administradores são outra historia. Edited October 19, 2011 by Lancer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figos Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Não concordo lol. A Activision então não poderia estar mais longe da Blizzard, que são provavelmente os únicos developers do mundo que trabalham sem prazos e só lançam os produtos quando estiverem mesmo acabados. Mas isso já é outra conversa :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted October 19, 2011 Author Share Posted October 19, 2011 Não é bem assim como tu pintas mas ok ^^ Nenhum de nós trabalha na Blizzard para poder confirmar a 100%. A política do Starcraft 2 a 60 euros por exemplo, logo após a Activision fazer a experiência com o MW a esse preço... continuas a achas que estão assim tão distantes? Tb não invalida o que eu disse sobre a 2a parte da história Bethesda\Mojang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hellspinner Posted October 19, 2011 Share Posted October 19, 2011 A Blizzard de hoje não e a Blizzard de hà 5anos atras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancer Posted October 20, 2011 Author Share Posted October 20, 2011 Eu diria antes que não a Blizzard que fez o Diablo 2 e o Warcraft 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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