Homenagem Ana Picasso

[Perks]

pensava honestamente que a compra da Motorola ia servir apenas para a google e os parceiros se defenderem, agora para atacar é uma Tristeza do crl...

A guerra das patentes ainda vai dar asneira e quem vai ficar mal somos nós

[Revenge]

pensava honestamente que a compra da Motorola ia servir apenas para a google e os parceiros se defenderem, agora para atacar é uma Tristeza do crl...

A guerra das patentes ainda vai dar asneira e quem vai ficar mal somos nós

Mas a única maneira é atacar lol

Como é que tu te defendes? Atacando. A Google não pode chegar lá e dizer: Olha eu tenho esta patente, e esta patente elimina essa patente. Não é assim que as coisas funcionam lol

A única solução é atacarem a Apple, e se a Apple se começar a sentir prejudicada, então sentam-se todos à mesas e dizem: "Olha, eu retiro o meu processo contra ti, se tu retirares o teu contra mim".

Agora, eles não podem ficar sentados a olhar a Apple a carregar fortes em processos, à espera que algo caia do céu e os safe.

PS: E enquanto a HTC fez isso, a Apple abriu mais um processo contra a Samsung. Como tal pensa bem qual será o melhor método ;)

[Perks]

se houver um negociação e/ou uma perda de algumas funções de um ou de outro SO, o enquadramento de cada plataforma pode mudar

O problema é que a qualidade da apple até pode diminuir, mas continuará a manter uma fiel legião de fãs, ao passo que se isso acontecer no Android o pessoal deserta e acabará por haver menos apps, menos developers, menos importância deste em relação a outros etc

No meu caso gosto muito de Android, mas senão houver developers trás, passo-me para outro lado sem grande dificuldade

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se houver um negociação e/ou uma perda de algumas funções de um ou de outro SO, o enquadramento de cada plataforma pode mudar

O problema é que a qualidade da apple até pode diminuir, mas continuará a manter uma fiel legião de fãs, ao passo que se isso acontecer no Android o pessoal deserta e acabará por haver menos apps, menos developers, menos importância deste em relação a outros etc

No meu caso gosto muito de Android, mas senão houver developers trás, passo-me para outro lado sem grande dificuldade

Ei pah, o ataque da Apple à Samsung é relacionado com o facto de clicares num link num mail, e o link enviar-te para um site da net. Algo que tu até no windows 98 fazias lol

Se por acaso não conseguirem dar a volta a essa patente, o que iria acontecer, era redesenharem isso para funcionar de uma maneira diferente, ou removerem isso. Agora o Android não ia cair por causa disso.

Aliás o Android já atingiu um estado, que já é muito complicado cair, a não ser que algo de muito mal aconteça na Google. Tipo a Nokia que adormeceu à sombra da bananeira com o Symbian.

Agora este ataque da HTC, é que já não faço a mínima ideia de que patente se trata.

Apenas se sabe que essas patentes foram escolhidas a dedo, e a razão da Google comprar a Motorola veio dai. Daqui a uns dias deveremos saber de que se trata.

[Perks]

Salvo erro o processo original da apple sobre a HTC era sobre a arquitectura interna do SO, na interacção com a UI

penso que devia ser "Sense related"

já agora se alguém quiser pesquisar, devem andar aqui no meio as que a HTC utilizou

http://www.google.com/patents?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_pnum=&as_vt=&as_pinvent=&as_pasgnee="high-tech+computer"+OR+"htc+corporation"&as_pusc=&as_pintlc=&as_ptype=11&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=

Edited September 8, 2011 by Perks

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Salvo erro o processo original da apple sobre a HTC era sobre a arquitectura interna do SO, na interacção com a UI

penso que devia ser "Sense related"

já agora se alguém quiser pesquisar, devem andar aqui no meio

http://www.google.com/patents?as_q=&num=10&btnG=Google+Search&as_epq=&as_oq=&as_eq=&as_pnum=&as_vt=&as_pinvent=&as_pasgnee="high-tech+computer"+OR+"htc+corporation"&as_pusc=&as_pintlc=&as_ptype=11&as_drrb_is=q&as_minm_is=0&as_miny_is=&as_maxm_is=0&as_maxy_is=&as_drrb_ap=q&as_minm_ap=0&as_miny_ap=&as_maxm_ap=0&as_maxy_ap=

Mas esse se não me engano, a Apple não teve sucesso. Ou pelo menos não se fala nele.

O que se fala agora é no processo à Samsung. Abriram o processo com dezenas de patentes, praticamente todas foram rejeitadas, tirando a tal patente que falei ali em cima, dos links no mail, que se clicares neles levam-te para o Browser.

[Perks]

Ja está mais ou menos divulgada a lista de patentes da HTC contra a Apple

 http://fosspatents.blogspot.com/2011/09/these-are-patents-google-gave-to-htc-to.html[/Code]

[Revenge]

Apple Cries About Samsung and Motorola's Patent "Monopoly"

In Apple's view Android smart phone makers are oppressing it and trying to engage in anticompetitive tactics.

Meanwhile Apple is trying to ban Android smart phones and tablets from the market with lawsuits. (Source: Google Plus)

Company says its rivals are being "anticompetitive" by trying to defend themselves with IP

In a scene straight out of Bizarro World, Apple, Inc.'s (AAPL) lawyers are crying foul about Samsung Electronics Comp., Ltd. (SEO:005930) and recent Google Inc. (GOOG) acquisitions Motorola's allegedly "anticompetitive" use of patents.

I. Apple Claims Android Phone makers are "Abusing" Patent System

Yes, this is the same Apple that has initiated a patent war [1][2][3][4][5] with these smartphone rivals. And it's the same rival that has tried to remove competing products from the market, rather than agree to negotiate a licensing fee. And it's the same company that patented multi-touch gestures 26 years after they were invented at a research university. And it's the same company that allegedly doctored evidence in European courts [1][2] to support its lawsuits against Android.

Yet in Apple's rose-colored glasses it is Samsung and Motorola who are bullies. Apparently Apple is irate about these companies' countersuits, which rely largely on patents covering wireless communications.

Many of these patents are governed by the "fair, reasonable and non-discriminatory" (F/RAND) principle, as they were developed as part of industry standards. Basically the premise is that R&D companies are guaranteed to be paid, but generally have to license F/RAND patents to whoever wants to use them.

But given Apple's legal belligerence, the carriers have made a special exception when it comes to Apple. And Apple, struggling in court, is growing increasingly frustrated.

The company's lawyers stated in a recent Motorola hearing, "By making false commitments that led to the establishment of worldwide standards incorporating its own patents and eliminating competing alternative technologies. Motorola [Mobility] has become a gatekeeper, accruing the power to harm or eliminate competition in the relevant markets if it so desires."

Apple takes issue with the fact that Motorola in its countersuit declines to differentiate the 7 F/RAND patents in its 18 patent collection. In a previous case Finland's Nokia Oyj. (HEL:NOK1V) used F/RAND patents, along with other patents, to win a cross-licensing settlement with Apple. However, apparently in that case Nokia differentiated the F/RAND patents in a special section of its court filings -- something Apple is supposedly okay with.

II. Apple Supporters Chime In

Apple has some allies in the F/RAND debate.

On Bloomberg TV the founder and CEO of a leading standards certifier M-CAM, Dr. David Martin, joined the attack, calling Motorola's patents "crap" and stating, "And the relatively best ones MMI has -- which wasn't discussed on Bloomberg -- are subject to FRAND commitments."

And pro-Apple patent blogger Florian Mueller comments, "[T]here have been completely off-base claims by some people that the 18 patents MMI is asserting against Apple are so powerful that they can protect Android as a whole (including other OEMs, such as Samsung, HTC and LG). [Google is] issuing statements that blow the strategic value of MMI's patents completely out of proportion. Googlorola won't help Samsung, as I explained before."

He quotes Apple's lawyers writing, "Samsung has unlawfully acquired monopoly power in markets for the technologies purportedly covered by patents which Samsung claims are essential to industry standards ('declared essential patents') by deceiving standards-setting organizations ('SSOs')... having obtained this ill-gotten monopoly power, Samsung has engaged in a relentless campaign of illegal and abusive assertions of its declared-essential patents to try to coerce Apple into tolerating Samsung's continuing imitation of [the iPhone and the iPad]."

III. EDITORIAL: Our Take

Regardless of what Mr. Mueller says, it's hard to dispute that the "rules" of F/RAND are largely community dictated and ambiguous. This is clearly a highly specialized case in which one company is using questionable claims (e.g. the ownership of all modern smart phone and tablet designs) to try to dictate its will on the market and grant itself a monopoly. Whether the victims still have to bow down and offer their attacker F/RAND licensing is certainly debatable.

And Mr. Mueller's assertion that the IP won't help Motorola and Samsung's case seems disingenuous. After all, if it were so inconsequential, why would Apple be so upset about it in court?

This isn't the first time that Apple has accused competitors over something it itself is doing. Apple chief executive and co-founder, Steven P. Jobs has bragged about his mastery of stealing ideas from others, stating , "Picasso had a saying - 'Good artists copy, great artists steal.' And we have always been shameless about stealing great ideas."

But faced with large touch-screen competitors to his iPhone and iPad, the CEO and Apple's lawyers cried foul, accusing these rivals of "slavishly" copying the company's intellectual property.

http://www.dailytech.com/Apple+Cries+About+Samsung+and+Motorolas+Patent+Monopoly/article22586.htm

Fdx, esta merd@, não há outra palavra, é o LOL total.

A Apple agora chora, que estão a ser anti-competitivos, por a google ter comprado a Motorola, e por usarem patentes contra eles. Quer dizer, quando a Apple começou a abrir processos a torto e a direito contra tudo e todos, já não eram anti-competitivos, nem choravam... Enfim, sem comentarios.

[Perks]

:lol:

Este é sem dúvida o post do ano :god:

tive que partilhar

[Spark]

Here's a tissue.

É o LOL.

[Mini0n]

Isto é a gozar, certo? :eek:

[EsCk]

É o mesmo choradinho de '80.. nada de novo.

[Revenge]

Uma pequena vitoria para a HTC, visto que vão rever as 2 patentes que a Apple tinha ganho sobre a HTC, ou seja, a HTC pode ficar livre do ataque das duas patentes.

Apple’s Patent Win Over HTC Put Into Question By U.S. Trade Agency

On July 15th, an ITC judge decided that HTC infringed on 2 of the 4 patents that Apple used against HTC. Now, it seems that a U.S Trade Agency has formed a 6 person comission to review to validity of these 4 patents, and whether a correct interpretation has been made for three of the patents.

That means they could either invalidate Apple’s win, or they could make it so HTC is responsible for the infringement of just one patent, or two of them, or even of all three (in which case Apple would be even happier with the review).

Apple has accused HTC of “stealing” their technology from the iPhone in this trial, and HTC has stated that no matter the infringement, there are “alternate solutions in place” to work around the patents.

The patents that HTC has been found of infringing cover transmission of multiple types of data and a system that can identify phone numbers in an e-mail in a way that lets the user dial or store that number, while the other two relate to object-oriented programming, a way of writing and executing software.

HTC is obviously pleased with the decision to review the case and the patents involved, as there is a small chance they’d be found guilty of infringing on the 3rd patent, while there is a high chance of the commission invalidating at least one, if not both the patents that HTC has been found of infringing in the lawsuit.

This new commission has asked Apple to show them that they are using the inventions in the 2 patents in their products, and whether they are using them or not, could influence their decision.

In an August 25th filing, HTC said that 36% of the Android smartphones in USA are made by them, and banning the import of their phones would eliminate the most popular Android smartphone brand in USA. HTC has until December 6th to solve this somehow, or they risk having ITC ban their devices from USA (though I doubt it will go that far). Right now this commission review seems HTC’s best chance to escape those patent infringements.

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Verizon Sides With Samsung on Apple’s US Ban Request

Well now here’s a turn up for the books, it appears that Verizon has now showed their colours and decided which side they are on in the continuing patent battle between Apple and Samsung, and has shown those colours by requesting the court deny Apple’s demands for a ban on Samsung gear such as the Galaxy Tab 10.1.

According to an article over on Slash Gear, by way of FOSS patents, that the Big Red has demands the US court rejects Apple’s request for an injunction against the sales of the like of the aforementioned Android slate, the Samsung Droid Charge, and Samsung Infuse 4G.

The Big Red claims that any injunction would “run counter to the public interest,” and would “hamstring” their rollout of their 4G LTE network, and potentially “undermine the job growth dependent on that network,” along with wasting promotion and advertising before the festive season.

Furthermore, Verizon claims that an injunction on Samsung gear would basically have a “negative affect” on governmental policy on the expansion of US broadband networks.

Verizon’s stance is “Verizon Wireless takes no position on whether a preliminary injunction should be granted if the Court finds a likelihood of success on the infringement of Apple’s design patents,” however they continue with “an injunction may cripple the free flow of goods to Verizon Wireless, businesses and consumers.”

Whether the judge presiding over the case will take Verizon’s statement into consideration before the hearing on October the 13th remains to be seen.

In retaliation to Apple’s continuing assault against Samsung, the Korean manufacturer has filed for the banning of the iPhone in Korea along with a ban on the iPhone and Apple iPad in the Netherlands. No doubt there is still a long way to go before Apple and Samsung come to some agreement that will put an end to all this bickering.

Olha a Verizon, a maior operadora de telecomunicações do mundo, vai-se meter do lado da Samsung no processo com a Apple.

Será que isto vai criar problemas entre a Verizon e a Apple?

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Agora no que toca ao processos com a HTC, esta volta de novo à carga, por parte da S3 que está prestes a comprar.

HTC's S3 Graphics sues Apple again for alleged patent violations

S3 Graphics, a company that smartphone maker HTC is in the process of acquiring, has sued Apple again this week, this time accusing the iPhone maker of violating two different patents.

As first noted by Florian Mueller of FOSS Patents, S3 has accused Apple of violating two new patents originally applied for in the 1990s. They are:

• U.S. Patent No. 5,945,997: "Block- and band-oriented traversal in three-dimensional triangle rendering," granted in 1999.
  
• U.S. Patent No. 5,581,279, "VGA controller circuitry," granted in 1996.
  

As is par for such complaints, S3 has asked that Apple products it believes are infringing -- including the iPhone, iPad, iPod touch and Mac computers -- be barred from sale. A complaint with the U.S. International Trade Commission was accompanied by a federal lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in the district of Delaware.

The lawsuit filed on Thursday with the ITC is the second complaint S3 Graphics has lodged against Apple. S3 won a partial victory in that complaint in July, as a judge determined Apple infringed on two out of four patents cited in the case.

Apple responded early this year with its own patent infringement suit filed against S3 in January. HTC then acquired S3 Graphics for $300 million, giving it a potential legal counter in its own, separate ongoing legal battles with Apple.

In July, an initial ruling from the ITC found that HTC had violated two patents owned by Apple related to the iPhone. Apple had originally accused HTC of violating 10 patents in total.

[Perks]

um post que apanhei no g+ com o qual concordo totalmente

HTC compra S3 à VIA. HTC processa Apple por usar circuitos de VGA no iPhone e iPods. Samsung processa Apple por usar redes UMTS no iPhone... e isto só vai ficar pior.

Vêm o quão ridiculo isto pode ficar? Isto é o que acontece quanto uma empresa tira partido de um ecosistema aberto criado por uma vasta comunidade para que os seus membros evoluam mutuamente, e depois de hipocritamente ter tirado partido de milhoes de tecnologias ja existentes tem a lata de dizer que são inovadores e usam essa premissa e fanatismo para processar meio mundo por apreciarem aquele contributo como seu, quando eles em primeira mão estão a usar coisas desenvolvidas por outros.

Ficamos a aguardar no que isto tudo vai dar..

Edited September 26, 2011 by Perks

[X-static]

Vão acabar por explodir todos numa bola de merda.

[Mini0n]

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Isto está a chegar a um ponto tão ridículo, que parece que já existe uma petição no próprio site da WhiteHouse.gov, em que é pedido para ser mudada a legislação das patentes de software.

E isso vai ter de acontecer, pois já se começa a tornar ridículo.

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T-Mobile sides with Samsung in Apple patent infringement case

On the heels of Verizon coming out in support of Samsung in Apple's patent lawsuit against the South Korean electronics maker, T-Mobile has submitted a brief opposing a proposed preliminary injunction against the company's smartphones and tablets.

The wireless carrier submitted an amicus curiae, "friend of the court," brief in defense of Samsung on Wednesday, along with a request to be admitted as a third party and a motion to shorten time to ensure that the request is considered ahead of an Oct. 13 hearing on Apple's motion for a preliminary injunction, Florian Mueller of FOSS Patents reports.

The filing closely resembles the arguments that Verizon Wireless made in its own filing last Friday, even noting that "to the extent applicable, T-Mobile incorporates the arguments of [Verizon's brief]." The nation's largest wireless carrier had argued in its brief that an preliminary injunction on Samsung's devices was detrimental to public interest because it could slow deployment of next-generation networks, possibly affecting "first responders and public safety officials."

Unlike Verizon, however, T-Mobile extends its public interest arguments to apply to all of Apple's asserted patents, not just the single software patent. Verizon's motion had excluded three of Apple's design patents from its brief, instead focusing on the lone software patent asserted against the devices.

T-Mobile's request to shorten time is meant to preempt an expected objection from Apple over the late filing of the motion. The iPhone maker on Tuesday opposed Verizon's request to file a brief in support of Samsung, arguing that the filing was "untimely." Mueller notes that the submission fails to mention why T-Mobile waited more than two months to file its motion, given that Apple asked for a preliminary injunction on four devices -- the Infuse 4G, Galaxy S 4G, Droid Charge and Galaxy Tab 10.1, on July 1.

Apple does not currently offer the iPhone on the T-Mobile network. The carrier's chief marketing officer said earlier this week that "the ball is in Apple's court" for a potential partnership between the two companies. But, T-Mobile's decision to side with Samsung in its dispute with Apple does not help its cause.

T-Mobile has bet heavily on Android, with 90 percent of its smartphone sales coming from devices powered by Google's mobile operating system. The carrier could vicariously sell the iPhone if rival AT&T completes its proposed acquisition of the carrier, but the deal faces opposition from the U.S. Justice Department, which has sued to block the transaction. In the meantime, T-Mobile continues to operate independently of AT&T.

Apple and Samsung began their legal dispute in April, but the electronics maker's legal woes have ramped up in recent weeks. Samsung has agreed to continue delaying the launch of its Galaxy Tab 10.1 tablet in Australia while awaiting a ruling from the judge presiding over the case. Justice Annabelle Bennett has said she expects to decide by next week whether to impose an injunction. The Galaxy Tab 10.1 has also been blocked from being sold in Germany.

Depois da Verizon, agora é a vez da T-Mobile se por do lado da Samsung contra a Apple.

As operadoras de telecomunicações começam a perceber as intenções da Apple.

[jr_cardoso]

Andas a passar ao lado tanto topico... Lol :P

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Andas a passar ao lado tanto topico... Lol

Tas a falar do que? Facebook?

Como sabes, também não sou grande admirador das politicas do Facebook. Por alguma razão o meu nº de telemovel e dados mais sensíveis, não estão no meu perfil.