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Por falar em FB, eu tenho a pw com 2 step verification, nos ultimos 2 meses tenho recebido sms's (já recebi umas 5, hoje foram duas vezes seguidas) de alteração de password. Limito-me no mail do FB indicar que não tentei alterar a pw para registo deles.

Mais alguém a sofrer do mesmo mal?

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19 hours ago, jr_cardoso said:

Por falar em FB, eu tenho a pw com 2 step verification, nos ultimos 2 meses tenho recebido sms's (já recebi umas 5, hoje foram duas vezes seguidas) de alteração de password. Limito-me no mail do FB indicar que não tentei alterar a pw para registo deles.

Mais alguém a sofrer do mesmo mal?

Vê as locations que acederam à tua conta, aqui https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=security&section=sessions&view

O email que recebes não será fake?
Andava aí um email a circular parecido para sacar a pass

@NOX de momento não podes limitar o search, a opção foi retirada
 

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4 minutes ago, cRaZyzMaN said:

Vê as locations que acederam à tua conta, aqui https://www.facebook.com/settings?tab=security&section=sessions&view

O email que recebes não será fake?
Andava aí um email a circular parecido para sacar a pass
 

no locations só tenho os meus acessos.

falaste no mail e fui ver, o endereço proveniente é de: [email protected]

já procurei e encontrei respostas diferentes, uns dizem que é leggit outros não... fui verificar no FB e dizem que sim:

https://www.facebook.com/help/202744123101612?sr=2&query=facebookmail.com&sid=0UOSWvX8jv1SoqdCM

 

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5 hours ago, jr_cardoso said:

no locations só tenho os meus acessos.

falaste no mail e fui ver, o endereço proveniente é de: [email protected]

já procurei e encontrei respostas diferentes, uns dizem que é leggit outros não... fui verificar no FB e dizem que sim:

https://www.facebook.com/help/202744123101612?sr=2&query=facebookmail.com&sid=0UOSWvX8jv1SoqdCM

 

o domain é do facebook, é legit, só se tiverem feito email spoofing,
o link que está nesse mail é do facebook ou de um site manhoso?
 

2 hours ago, DanielAmorim said:

Alguém está a acompanhar a polêmica que envolve o FB e as notícias falsas que são publicadas na rede social?

haverá sempre cenas fake e spam

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24 minutes ago, cRaZyzMaN said:

Haverá sempre cenas fake e spam

A questão é que há pessoal a ganhar imenso dinheiro com isso e agora até se fala do impacto que algumas dessas notícias podem ter tido na eleição do Trum. Estamos à falar de sites e se fazem passar pela ABC, CNN, etc... e que grande parte dos utilizadores do Facebook n validam a fonte e que as notícias se tornam virais. 

O Zuckerberg já veio a público dizer que acha que isto não teve qualquer influência na eleição do Trump, mas que é um problema que está marcado como prioridade máxima.

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3 hours ago, DanielAmorim said:

A questão é que há pessoal a ganhar imenso dinheiro com isso e agora até se fala do impacto que algumas dessas notícias podem ter tido na eleição do Trum. Estamos à falar de sites e se fazem passar pela ABC, CNN, etc... e que grande parte dos utilizadores do Facebook n validam a fonte e que as notícias se tornam virais. 

O Zuckerberg já veio a público dizer que acha que isto não teve qualquer influência na eleição do Trump, mas que é um problema que está marcado como prioridade máxima.

Isto existe aos anos, nunca corrigiram e agora o Trump é eleito e começam com tretas
Posso postar uma notícia e aparecer qualquer domain, até mesmo a aparecer como sendo do FNF e o site ser outro diferente, daí o engano da malta
 

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11 minutes ago, cRaZyzMaN said:

Isto existe aos anos, nunca corrigiram e agora o Trump é eleito e começam com tretas
Posso postar uma notícia e aparecer qualquer domain, até mesmo a aparecer como sendo do FNF e o site ser outro diferente, daí o engano da malta
 

Tu tens mesmo de começar a falar das questões em vez de constatar o óbvio. Podes postar uma notícia com qualquer domain? Não me digas, não é precisamente disso que estamos a falar? O importante é que os responsáveis pelas redes sociais onde essas mesmas notícias falsas são divulgadas façam alguma coisa. Se não houver Facebook para espalhar as notícias, o impacto que as mesmas têm é quase zero. 

Existe aos anos? Talvez, mas não é há 5 ou há 10. É um problema crescente que agora pode, ou não, ter culminado na eleição do Trump. Se é isso que vai fazer com que tentem resolver o assunto, que se lixe. É preciso é resolver. 

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hmm

não é bem isso que está a gerar a discussão, não tem a ver com as fake news mas com "fake" news.

prai 80 e tal por cento das pessoas vêm as noticias pelo facebook, e querem monopolizar isso censurando aquilo que for contra "their agenda" (que por acaso é o que têm feito nos ultimos anos)

têm acusado o facebook de ser responsavel nas eleições, por ter permitido a partilha de informações do wikileaks não censurando a tempo,

e que querem à força toda considerar essas informações um hoax

 

 

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Não se enganem...

Esta questão das "fake" news é apenas e só uma das muitas tentativas que continuarão a existir no futuro para tomar de assalto o facebook, da parte de pessoas que querem deter o poder daquilo que é (infelizmente) a maior ferramenta de condicionamento do pensamento das pessoas que existe. Já aconteceu com o twitter e agora passa para o facebook. As notícias que eu vi que eles apelidam de "fake" não são mais do que verdades inconvenientes e que entram em conflito directo com a propaganda que se quer espalhar.

Isto obviamente nunca seria problema se hoje em dia não fosse um facto quase perfeitamente inegável que a maioria das pessoas só sabe daquilo que se passa no mundo pq lhe aparece no facebook. Outro facto engraçado é que normalmente quem comenta e se perde em debates de secções de comentários de notícias, são pessoas ou extremamente... como dizer... burras, ou extremamente... eh... extremas (de ambos os lados).

Isto é a última fronteira na exploração do que rege o mundo nos dias de hoje e que não é mais do que a ignorância em massa... É uma massa de ignorância que é empurrada ora para um lado, ou para o outro na direcção de um tipo de postura cultural conveniente aos fins desta malta e onde o facebook é ferramenta crucial. Ptt trata-se da conquista do el dorado... Nada de estranho.

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Hawaiians call Mark Zuckerberg 'the face of neocolonialism' over land lawsuits

Attorneys for Facebook’s CEO have filed suits against hundreds of Hawaiians centered around his 700-acre Kauai estate, alarming neighbors

few days after Christmas, Mark Zuckerberg shared a series of photographsof his family at their $100m, 700-acre property in Kauai. The Facebook CEO and his wife “fell in love with the community and the cloudy green mountains”, he wrote, and decided to “plant roots and join the community ourselves”.

Two days later, Zuckerberg’s lawyers filed lawsuits against hundreds of Hawaiians who may own an interest in small parcels within the boundaries of Zuckerberg’s estate. The “quiet title” suits, first reported by the Honolulu Star-Advertiser, are used to clarify the often complicated history of land ownership in Hawaii and can result in owners being forced to sell their land at auction. In some cases, defendants are even required to pay the legal fees of the plaintiff – in this case, the world’s fifth richest man.

 

Zuckerberg’s lawsuits have prompted a backlash from locals who place the billionaire within a long, painful history of western conquest and Native Hawaiian dispossession.

“This is the face of neocolonialism,” said Kapua Sproat, a law professor at the University of Hawaii who is originally from Kauai. “Even though a forced sale may not physically displace people, it’s the last nail in the coffin of separating us from the land.”

“For us, as Native Hawaiians, the land is an ancestor. It’s a grandparent,” she added. “You just don’t sell your grandmother.”

Kauai, known as the Garden Island, has long been a favorite playground of holidaymakers, Hollywood film-makers and millionaires on their second or third homes. The vine-choked forests, plunging waterfalls and broad sand beaches have served as the backdrops for films including Jurassic Park and Pirates of the Caribbean while the laid-back rural cool and mellow tropical vibe has attracted rock stars, celebrities and at least one Russian billionaire.

But the acquisition of vacation homes by wealthy malihini (newcomers) exacerbates a social chasm keenly felt by kamaaina (native-born or longtime residents of Hawaii).

“People have always seen the value of living in Hawaii, in paradise, and for many generations now, it’s been a detriment to us,” said Kauai council member Mason Chock. “They’ve come in and purchased land and raised the value so much. Only people from abroad or outside Kauai can even afford to live in Kauai now.”

Nearby a bluff overlooking north Pacific swells, a one-mile lava-rock wall demarcates a property which, from the road, is attractive but unremarkable. A sign reads “thank you for not trespassing”, but nothing suggests the land belongs to the Facebook CEO.

The problem is that it doesn’t. Not all of it, anyway.

Before westerners came to Hawaii, stewardship of the land, or ‘āina, was a collective responsibility, characterized by the familial relationship to the land described by Sproat. Privatization came in 1848 with the Māhele, which began the process of divvying up parcels between the king, the government and the people. The Kuleana Act of 1850 was intended to allow Native Hawaiians to claim title to lands they were cultivating, but ultimately less than 1% of Hawaii’s land area was granted to indigenous people.

Over the generations, ownership stakes in many kuleana parcels have been divided among descendants, and some Hawaiians may not even know they have a claim on the land. It is this confusion that quiet title lawsuits attempt to dispel.

The defendants in Zuckerberg’s lawsuits are descendants of the original kuleana title holders for small parcels surrounded by the estate.

Zuckerberg’s lawyer and representatives did not respond to repeated inquiries from the Guardian, but in a Facebook post on 19 January, the CEO defended his lawsuits as a good-faith effort “to find all these partial owners so we can pay them their fair share”. He is also reportedly supported by one of the partial owners of the kuleana land, Carlos Andrade, a retired professor of Hawaiian Studies at the University of Hawaii.

 

Andrade is assisting Zuckerberg on the quiet title process, according to the Honolulu Star-Advertiser. He did not respond to a query from the Guardian.

Makaala Kaaumoana, the executive director of an environmental group in Hanalei, Kauai, said that the lawsuits would help identify and inform descendants of links to the land they may not know about, which is “a good thing”.

“It is always a sad thing when families lose their land, for any reason, but at least this way they are compensated,” she said.

And Matt Goodale, a neighbor whose 10 acres of breadfruit, banana, mango, lychee and longan trees lie about one and a half miles from Zuckerberg’s property, said that the CEO’s purchase of the land was much better than the alternative: an 80-home development.

“His current actions show that he is trying to do the right thing,” Goodale said.

But for others, Zuckerberg’s lawsuits are unnecessary and unneighborly.

“Zuckerberg is saying he wants to respect the local culture and Hawaiian values but … I was always taught that if there was a dispute with somebody you go and knock on their door, sit down, and you kukakuka [discuss] and you hooponopono [make it right],” said Hawaii state representative Kaniela Ing of Maui. “You don’t initiate conversation by filing a lawsuit.”

Ing criticized Zuckerberg as “using the same legal loopholes sugar barons in Hawaii exploited centuries ago”, and said he planned to introduce state legislation to reform the quiet title process. One proposal would let kuleana owners group together and form a trust, in order to achieve a fairer price for their land.

Zuckerberg had already raised hackles by building the mile-long wall, and the lawsuits have also raised concerns about whether Zuckerberg will try to block people from accessing a public beach through his private property.

Many Native Hawaiians, including Sproat’s family, travel regularly to Pilaa beach to fish and gather seaweed, which she called an “important icebox” for people pursuing the traditional lifestyle.

 

“We have been waiting for contact,” said Hope Kallai, who lives on the same street as Zuckerberg, one property away. Kallai said she and other neighbors have attempted to reach out through Zuckerberg’s lawyers and ranch manager with no success. They did know that the billionaire was in town for Christmas, though, because they saw security guards parked on the road.

“He’s kind of in a bubble. It would be much better if we could sit in a circle and talk. He talks about building bridges and not walls,” Kallai said. “He built a six-foot wall.”

 

 

 

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Não sei se puseram a notícia noutro tópico:

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After forcing users to switch to separate Messenger app to continue chatting, Facebook will now push adverts on them in expanded trial

 After being tested in Australia and Thailand, ads within Facebook Messenger are going to be rolled out globally. 
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After forcing Facebook users to switch to a separate Messenger app to continue chatting, the social network is about to start pushing adverts on those using the function.

Facebook said on Tuesday that it was testing advertising on its Messenger app globally as the world’s largest social media company looks to further monetise its popular chat service, which has 1.2 billion monthly users.

Ads will be displayed on the home tab of the Messenger app, Facebook said, adding that users clicking on the ads will either be taken to the advertiser’s website or to a chat window where they can interact with the brand. Previously Facebook allowed businesses to chat with Messenger users directly and send them sponsored content.

The move follows Facebook’s initial tests in Australia and Thailand in January, and is a crucial step in its plans to continue to monetise users across its increasingly diverse and segregated platforms, which include the main Facebook social network, Messenger, Instagram and WhatsApp. Of the four, only WhatsApp does not contain ads.

Facebook gets about 85% of its ad revenue from mobile, but advertising through the main Facebook app is expected to cool off this year, meaning that multiple revenue streams from separate platforms are becoming more important.

But how Messenger users react to having ads inserted into their home screens remains to be seen. Users will be able to temporarily hide specific ads, but not stop them in their entirety.

In a world populated by ad-blocking through browsers, segregated apps such as Facebook’s and Twitter’s have remained isolated from the trend, and a place toguarantee eyeballs on ads for marketers, aided by Facebook’s wealth of user data and advanced targeting.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/jul/12/facebook-messenger-app-adverts

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9 hours ago, cRaZyzMaN said:

bom bom, são os ads nos videos

A cada vez que isso acontece perco o interesse no video, continuo a fazer scroll. Eu pego no telemóvel e vou ao facebook quase sempre que estou aborrecido, vou procurar content, e metem-me anúncios :facepalm: .

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A regra de ouro é assumir que todas as aplicações fazem isso, independentemente das permissões que damos.
Mesmo recusando-me a usar aplicações que eu acho estarem a pedir permissões a mais, assumo sempre que todas as aplicações tem acesso total ao meu telemóvel.

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Ha montes de aplicacoes que pedem permissoes que nao deveriam pedir, a ultima em data é a app dos stickers panini, para que lhes interessa ter acesso a minha lista de contactos?? A camara ainda percebo para fazer scan da imagem mas mais que isso ja estao a tentar fazer marosca...

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2 minutes ago, skaazi said:

Ha montes de aplicacoes que pedem permissoes que nao deveriam pedir, a ultima em data é a app dos stickers panini, para que lhes interessa ter acesso a minha lista de contactos?? A camara ainda percebo para fazer scan da imagem mas mais que isso ja estao a tentar fazer marosca...

E foi apenas essa da camara que dei permissão. Mais, autorizo o uso da câmara para fazer o scan e dp anulo novamente. 

Tin foil, I know. Mas pelo que se tem visto...

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